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  1. Rob says:

    this is where you post

  2. Matthew Wolosz(Patriot Pol. speech) says:

    To whites men in America the Revolutionary war meant freedom and liberty in political and economical ways. Rather than in the sense of personal bondage that blacks suffer. But to blacks, all we care of is freedom. (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aia/part2/2narr4.html)
    So I ask you all today that you not be so quick to join the side that offers you freedom. And not to be so selfish to only think of your freedom, but to think of the freedom of all your people, and your families generations to come. For the Patriot fight is one of Democracy. Where men are equal, and the goverment is inclusive to rights and natural laws that we are all govern us all.
    As opposed to joining the loyalists side and siding with Brittian, the very ones who brought you here. Where you will be subject to a monarch, with a working class society, where you would be below the level of a peasant, and no room to grow into a better life. When you are at the mercy of one man, the king.
    Where as in a democracy you can work your way from the bottom, and create a better life for yourself.
    It is a large promise to say you will all be freed at the end of this, if you join this Democratic Patriot side. But I can promise it is a steppin stone in the right direction of freedom, and all men being treated truly equal. For under a monarch and class society, you will not ever have a chance at a better life.
    It is this Revolution Ideology of freedom that will set you free. It will begin with freedom from this unjust monarch society, a society where the lowest class has no say. And with that freedom from this monarch, will come eventually freedom for all.
    For the inconsistancies of sets white America free, but holds us down, will not go unnoticed or unvoiced, or acted upon. In Fact as early as 1765 James Otis a white man, suggested that blacks were part of American citizenry. “Colonists” he called them “Black or White born here, are born free. All men by Law of Nature are free born.” (In Hope Of Liberty pg.56)
    And it was Thomas Pain who said ” black people did not forfeit their rights of freedom, so still have a natural right to it.” and said that ” the goverment should set them free and punish those who enslaved them.” (http://www.Thomaspain.org/Archive/Afri.html)
    And it was also Pain that gave suggestions of what could come of this. He suggested masters could offer land for a reasonable rent. and could employ slaves for wages, so “that they may build property and fruits of there labor. Having civil protection and other advantages of their fellow man. Thus becoming interested in public welfare and assist in promoting it. Instead of being a danger to society.” (http://www.Thomaspain.org/Archive/Afri.html).
    This Ant-slavery has already begun in the north and beginning to spread.
    Quakers in Penn. and Western New Jersey in 1758, “condemming the importation, trading, buying, or holding of slave from leadership position,” within their group. (In Hope Of Liberty pg 56.)
    So as you can see the choice is clear. You can see the diffrence between a monarch, and that of one built on freedom. And as of right now we are not free, and may not be free tomorrow. But it is clear that all this talk of freedom and equal rights is clearly a large stepping stone in the right direction, and the direction path is being paved now. And that is a path of freedom. For the Patriot fight is truly one of freedom for all and if not for you tomorrow, then pick up this fight for your family, your children, and for all generation of Africans to come in this land after you.

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